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The Foreshore Interview: Bertie Beeching

Q&A: Bertie Beeching on his dystopian novel Dreamer’s Grid, an imaginative and surprisingly plausible narrative set in a post-apocalyptic world ravaged by an epidemic which erases joy that follows the inhabitants of a commune battling for survival. Their only hope lies in escaping the bleakness and emotional turmoil to a place known as the Grid, where rehabilitation through simulated dreams is possible.

Congratulations on your debut novel, Dreamer’s Grid!  You’ve set the story in a dystopian world – why did you choose this genre?

I think the same reason that the genre resonates with both the tail end of the Millennial generation and also those generations that follow: the real world is always in a bit of permanent, potential doom. We’ve heard of the ‘scary stories’ of the World Wars or Nuclear Winter, and equally we’ve had semi-apocalypses like the spread of COVID, plus the news is constantly saying the environment is inches away from utter destruction. Many dystopian texts present characters that feel they are mostly powerless to do anything about such oncoming doom, and I sense these generations might relate to this as we watch world leaders pull out of climate agreements and suchlike.

Dreamer’s Grid presents a future where humankind is reeling from a ‘virus’ that makes people suicidal – depression has become an epidemic. The protagonist Marly is so tired of life, to the point of almost letting a starving dog maul him in the opening pages of the story.  What inspired you to explore such a powerful theme?

I’ve already mentioned COVID (and there are influences), but it all started with Swine Flu. Again, it’s the sheer uncertainty of it all – both viruses made an awful lot of people panic even if no one they knew had actually had contracted it. In contrast, recent statistics suggest one in six people could have a mental health problem, and yet especially as a student I found it curious no one seemed bothered by this. The central crux of the novel has always been this: if depression could be as contagious as a virus, would more people start caring about it? As for the dog attack – surprisingly there is a sudden positive hidden within the violence, but you’d have to read and find out what that is…

Marly only really has three close connections – a father figure in Rev, an old priest who lives on the outskirts of the village; Juwel, a close friend who saves Marly from the dog attack at the beginning of the story and Clotwell, Marly’s teacher. Can you tell us something about the developing relationship between these characters  and what you think each of them brings to the story?

Rev finds Marly as an infant, and so there is a sort of pseudo-biological trust there, but it also brings Marly to one of his first dilemmas – Rev is essentially one of the founders of the village where the story is set, yet time has made him an outsider, so whenever Marly visits this place of familiarity and safety, he risks isolating himself. Naturally, his life-long friend, Juwel, would not likely leave him entirely shunned, but it is partially due to something Juwel did in the past that helps convince Marly to leave the village later in the story. Then, Clotwell. The name is symbolic in that disgusting English-teacher way. While Rev talks philosophy and Juwel talks about life before societal collapse, Clotwell gives more pragmatic advice that tends to address issues quickly – such as how it is not a good idea for Marly to hide alone in a dark corner just as a cohort of female pupils are led past him. I expect people will notice that Marly does not have much variety in the way of female role models, but this too becomes quite an important quality in the wider story.

Dreamer’s Grid is, if not exclusively, aimed at Young Adults.  There are elements of sci-fi and modern technology alongside important themes of food poverty – they all live in a post-apocalyptic commune, where life revolves around the endless farm work needed to feed the village without unnecessary starvation – mental illness, friendship, loyalty and betrayal – can you offer any tips to teachers on how to use your book to discuss these issues?

God forbid it end up in a classroom! I suppose much discussion could be had by simply reading it and asking ‘which issues or anxieties can you [the pupils] see appearing that you’ve also thought about?’ or perhaps more simply just asking ‘why did that happen?’ When the dog is preparing to attack Marly, the thought crosses his mind that ‘a dog has to eat too,’ and so we can ask what would need to happen to a human being for them to think in this morbid way. This is, after all, the world they might be inheriting one day.

How long did it take to write Dreamer’s Grid, and what does your writing process look like? Do you type or write in longhand? How many drafts did you go through before submitting the final version?

Ah, yes. The mildly embarrassing question! If we can somehow spin this into a tale of resilience (rather than procrastination), I think it truly began around 2015 thanks to some kind words from an English teacher, when I first wrote down ‘would people care about mental illness if you could catch it?’ That, and a number of statistics I had read regarding suicide in young people, quickly became the opening lines of the stranger who announces ‘The Grid’ to Marly’s village. I then thought I should probably practise and learn a little more about writing – thank you, [University of] Nottingham – and so in reality the ‘real’ writing started closer to 2019. As for the process, I tend to carry a notebook around with me everywhere, and buy a fresh one each year. First drafts usually go on paper, and then as I type them up I get rid of the rubbish and pretend someone else wrote them. For the number of drafts, I think on my old computer there’s still something like ‘DRAFT 27’ still listed down there, but in reality I think I can say three proper ones: the first draft, where the story just about comes to an end; the second, where the story now actually makes sense; and third, the story is now (hopefully) enjoyable to read!

Finally, which authors have influenced you and do you have a favourite author who you enjoy reading?

With no hesitation, I can say that Terry Pratchett is my favourite author, but funnily enough that doesn’t quite fit the mould here. However, if you look at my bookshelf (ignoring the entire Discworld series) you will notice there are something like eight copies of Huxley’s Brave New World. (A story for another time.) Strangely I cannot for the life of me pinpoint when I actually read it first, but it is one of the only dystopian texts that I have reread after multiple periods of time and realised some element or theme seems ever-more relevant. Yes, there are Shakespeare references in Dreamer’s Grid, but the references are somewhat based on the way Huxley uses them.

Dreamer’s Grid is published this spring by Foreshore and is available on backorder.

BERTIE BEECHING is an English writer from Eastbourne who teaches English in Cambridge. He studied at the University of Nottingham. 

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THE DARKNESS SEETHEDINVISIBLE AND UNTOUCHABLELIKE GOD. EVEN IN MY BLINDNESSTHERE WAS MOVEMENT. THE SHADOWS THEMSELVES HAD SHADOWSHANGINGAS WE WEREIN BETWEEN THAT ENDLESS BLACK PIT AND ENDLESS BLACK SKYSEWN TOGETHER WITH AN ENDLESS HORIZON. I COULD SENSE THEM NOW. IN THIS ABYSSTHE DARKEST CRANNIES – BOTH THOSE YOUR EYES SEE OR THOSE IN YOUR MIND – WERE MADE BRIGHT. AND NOW SAW WHY THE MIND HIDES CERTAIN TERRORS IN THOSE CREVICES.

A superb work of fiction.
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Completely Convincing and deeply scary.
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